Join Dogwood Alliance and SlaytheMic as we collaborate to bring tales of connections to nature and music to you during this time. We’re proud to present our third episode of Woods & Wilds: The Podcast!

This week, our hosts Kimala Luna from Dogwood Alliance and Elizabeth Garland from SlayTheMic are joined by a very special guest, Daniel White aka The Blackalachian.

The Blackalachian got his start in the outdoor world in 2017 when he hiked the Appalachian Trail, which is 2,200 miles from Georgia to Maine. Daniel said,

“That was my very first time camping or hiking or anything of the sort. So I was just new on the scene. And since then, I’ve been chasing adventure ever since.”

In this episode of the podcast Daniel talks about how he started hiking, where he is now, the things he’s learned along the way, encountering microaggressions on the trail, songs that inspire him, moments he finds most magical in nature, and upcoming projects he’s excited about.

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Full Transcript

Elizabeth Garland: All right, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Woods and Wilds. I’m Elizabeth Lashay with Slay the Mic and I am joined by my wonderful co-host…

Kimala Luna: Dogwood Alliance: I’m Kimala Luna with Dogwood Alliance, and we are here with…

Daniel White: Daniel White, aka The Blackalachian. Thank you guys for having me so much.

Elizabeth Garland: No, thank you.

Kimala Luna: Good to have you.

Elizabeth Garland: I am so excited-

Kimala Luna: Yes, I’m so excited.

Elizabeth Garland: … to sit down and talk with you. So let’s talk about a little bit about who you are because you’ve done a lot of walking for sure.

Daniel White: Yeah, for sure. Well, a lot of people know me as The Blackalachian. I got my start in the outdoor world, hiking, and everything in 2017 when I hiked the Appalachian Trail, 2,200 miles from Georgia to Maine. That was my first time camping or hiking or anything of the sort. So I was just new on the scene. And since then, man, I’ve just been chasing adventure ever since, I guess, that first foot on the trail.

Kimala Luna: Dogwood Alliance: Wow. What’s the most recent adventure that you’ve been on?

Daniel White: My most recent hike, I would say long distance would be the El Camino de Santiago, which is a pilgrimage route in Spain. There are eight or nine different ways that you can go. I took the northern route, which is around 530 miles across the northern coast of Spain all the way to Santiago de Compostela, where there’s like a huge church and there’s a bunch of people that crying. Yeah, it’s really an intense trip. So that was the last one. And I think a month before I took on that trip, I went and hiked Coast-to-Coast across Scotland. So I was able to get a couple of trips across the pond. They’re pretty close to each other and pretty cool experience, for sure.

Elizabeth Garland: Wow.

Kimala Luna: Wow. That’s incredible. How did you hear about the El Camino de Santiago?

Daniel White: From hiking the Appalachian Trail. A lot of people talking about it. They said it was on their bucket list and everything, and I didn’t really actually look it up until I was in… I think I was in… I wasn’t in Scotland because after I finished up my Scotland trip, I went over to Amsterdam for a little bit. So I was in Amsterdam and I was just looking up trails that I could do and try to just continue my adventure, and I found the Camino. I was like, “Oh yeah, I forgot about this one.” So I looked it up. I reached out to the company Moosejaw. Shout out to Moosejaw. They got behind me and sponsored and I was back over there in Spain a month later.

Elizabeth Garland: Wow. How many miles do you think you have hiked starting your journey with hiking?

Daniel White: I would say-

Kimala Luna: That’s a good question.

Daniel White: Oh, man. Well, we got the 2,200 Appalachian. We got the 530 for Camino, a little bit over 200 in Scotland, a couple of shorter trips here and there mountains to sea sections and stuff, so I would say at least 3,000 on foot. And then I also have another around 2,000 by bike from riding the Underground Railroad trail by bike. So yeah, about 5,000 on just legs, just legs experience, leg power for sure.

Kimala Luna: Holy moly.

Elizabeth Garland: That is amazing. I have a question in terms of when you started this adventure in finding out your passion and love for nature. Can you tell us a little bit about that?

Daniel White: Just really first time ever feeling freedom, peace. Being a Black man in America, man, you just don’t get that up quite often. I don’t have to answer to anybody. I just got to worry about where I need to go for the day, freshwater, whether I got food and things like that. It was just like really simple. And then you start [being] in touch with nature, like you start smelling things different. You can smell the rain coming in, like the southern folks always tell you. You can kind of watch the weather, you know what’s happening. You can hear things better. Your senses get a little bit sharper being out there the more time you spend out there.

Daniel White: So just that freedom of just connecting back with the land, that was something different for me, that I, coming from the inner city, not even… It wasn’t the middle of New York City where there wasn’t a woods around. I grew up in Asheville where I was an hour away from the Appalachian Trail, but just stuck in that inner-city lifestyle as far as just trying to survive and make it. The hills and woods was the last thing on my mind before when I was a teenager and beyond. So definitely life-changing for sure.

Kimala Luna: Yeah. Can you talk about some of those changes? Because they talk about with the woods all the time and there’s that forest bathing thing in Japan where people just go out into the woods and their mood and outlook changes. Can you just talk about what happens for you emotionally in the woods?

Daniel White: Like I said, it’s just the solitude and peace. I craved that. The world is just so loud at all times, especially in America, this thing is 24/7. We never slow down. We never take a break. So it is like being able to slow down and stop and actually get real clear authority. When you climb up to the top of the mountain, you feel a little bit stronger. When you get up there, you’re stronger. Every day that I was on the Appalachian Trail or any trail for that matter, you just feel stronger as the days go on like you’re just building yourself up.

Daniel White: So I don’t know. The benefits to me were kind of instant. I can tell like, “Yeah. Okay, this is a change.” You know what I mean? So even in your mental state, as far as what you can and cannot do, how you think, what you think you can accomplish. I saw people with little small children out there and I’m like, “Man, they’re really setting them up for the interesting life because then kids going to know that they can pretty much accomplish anything once they hike this trail.” So just that type of bonus that you get from being out there and having to depend more on yourself because you’re all you got out there some days.

Elizabeth Garland: That is beautiful.

Kimala Luna: Yes.

Elizabeth Garland: Has there been a person during your time out in the woods that really made an impact on you, that you ran in [inaudible 00:06:49]?

Daniel White: Hundreds, I would say, because I YouTubed so I would have people kind of run upon me, like middle-aged white guys in the middle of the woods, “Hey, Blackalachian.” So that type of thing. People that follow me, that would come drive a couple of hours away just to come meet me, bring snacks for me and all the people that I was hiking with. Just that type of thing. So all along the way. All along the way, I met people with just about every place that I stopped.

Daniel White: Even on the bike trip where there’s not a lot of infrastructure of people giving back to the trail and they call them trail angels, like when people leave food and stuff at the trail heads. There’s not a lot of that on the Underground Railroad, but I still met just as many people because I’m coming through a small town of about 300 people and you making their day. They ain’t seen it like this and they’re like, “Where are you going?” “Oh, I’m going here to Canada.” “What?” “[inaudible 00:07:43] much.” So you make these folks’ day.

Daniel White: I mean, every trip I’ve been on, that’s mainly one of the highlights. Just the people that I’m able to meet and connect with. I met a guy in Congo when I was in Spain telling me he got a couple of gold bars. I’m like, “I never met anybody in my life with gold bars.” I’m like, “Oh, well.” We exchanged and gold prices and emails and this, that, and the third. So it just kind of makes your world smaller and gives you more opportunities and options. I probably got 50 or 2,000 couches I can go sleep on around the world just from people that I’ve met and connections. So that’s very important to me.

Kimala Luna: Oh, that’s awesome. Where did this time when you went through your first obstacle, you got over your first hurdle and were like, “I could do anything.”

Daniel White: Oh man, the first couple of days, just getting past the first couple of days on trail, just knowing that, “Oh, I can hike. I actually can hike with a full pack on. I can hike 15, 20 miles a day. I can actually do this. I can actually camp.” After the first couple of days, I was ready to go. Yeah, I never really looked back after that. It’s like I got a sense of – crazy sense of belief in myself about it. You kind of got to have a really wild sense a belief in yourself to do something like that, I guess. So, yeah.

Kimala Luna: Awesome.

Elizabeth Garland: That is amazing to me because I’m just thinking of all the animal sounds I would hear at night and I would absolutely lose it.

Daniel White: Well, yeah, I did though and I’m still scared at the same time, but I got to face my fears. Being a Black man, I faced all kinds of stuff just walking out the door. It’s like I can really not make it back home from walking through the store right down the street so I live it to the fullest. I mean, I’ll take my chances with the bear, to be honest. I think I’d be okay.

Elizabeth Garland: That’s really important. And I want to go back to what you were saying about being in the inner city and living in Asheville and the survival of it, but then it’s also you’re out in the woods and there’s a survival. And I also know that you were formerly in music, in the music industry. So how does all of that intertwine and what are some of the similarities that you see?

Daniel White: Oh, between music and outdoors you say?

Elizabeth Garland: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Daniel White: I don’t know. The creativity of it, I would say. That kind of has affected. I can create music. I also can go create a rap. I can go hiking where I want to. I can make it my own. I can do anything I want to do. So it’s like your canvas. So it’s like that, that creative part of it, I would say. So yeah, the music and then it prepared me for this, I guess because now with me being a public, I guess, figure in the outdoor world, I guess you could call it, it prepared me for this. When I do the photo shoots and stuff, people look at me like, “Oh yeah, I’ll make you a natural light.” Man, I’ve been doing photoshoots for like 10 years before this because I rap. Yeah, I’m used to being in front of a camera. I’m used to interacting with people like it’s a natural thing and the more you practice, the more you put in those hours, like I said, 10,000 hours, I think it just kind of goes hand in hand. But yeah, music, I don’t know. Then I love just music in general on trail, just being out there and being able to just, like I said, disconnect and just consume things in your own time, your own way. I used to download shows and everything when I was out on tour. I didn’t miss a thing. I used to watch Power and everything. I might watch it from the top of a mountain, but it’s always like, yeah, you got to have… It’s a balance. Everything is connected and it’s always a balance that you got to constantly try to keep

Kimala Luna: I love this and I like the concept of creativity and doing things your own way, starting with something that’s pretty tangible like an art form, like music and then moving that into every category of your life because it’s interconnected. When did you decide that you were like, or when did that click first for you where you were like, “Ah, I can just do it all my own way.”

Daniel White: Oh, I want to say the Appalachian Trail, I try to just stick to it by the numbers because that was the conventional thing to do. But once I got on the bike trail and the route they were taking me through was pretty dangerous. I think on the third day, I got sideswiped by a truck. So I flew all off of my bike and everything. So I was like, “No, I don’t think I’m going to take this route anymore. I got to figure out my own way.” So I started pulling up the maps and started kind of designing my own way up to America, just to say I need to stay off of these highways. We’re going through a lot of highways with a lot of logging trucks and stuff like that where I just wasn’t comfortable. So that right there got me into it.

Daniel White: Then when I went to Scotland, the guys that invited me over there, we didn’t mesh very well. It was kind of like a couple of racist things in my eyes that happened there. And then also I didn’t feel like we were hiking as a group. Personally, I just felt like the token Black guy, just to be honest. So I split up with those guys and went and did the rest of my trip and kind of just met the townspeople because they had us hiking through all these back country, just bogs in the middle of nowhere of Scotland. I think they enjoyed that. I’m like, “Bro, I didn’t sign up for this.” So that right there. And then I had an even better time. I met a girl. We went on a date and everything. I had an amazing time. So that right there, I was like, “You know what, I moved that all my own and I moved better at my own pace and just kind of doing my own thing.”

Elizabeth Garland: SlaytheMic: Nice. Well, I want to know in terms of the next step and leaving your legacy. So because you have created a name for yourself, you were already just your personality and just knowing you, but the legacy that you want to leave on this world, what would that be?

Daniel White: Man, independence, equity, taking your own destiny back in your hand. One of my dreams or what I’m really trying to accomplish within the next few years and starting some type of a home state and some property, buying some property and getting some youth, some people my age, people older than me. I would love to get them. And I call it like a reverse gentrification type thing, like we’re going back out. Y’all had the city, do whatever you want to do. We’re going back out here. We’re going to buy this land. We’re going to get back to the land and farm and bee-keep and everything and teach these people the skills.

Daniel White: I’m an electrician by trade, so I can show you how to wire up a house. I can bring people there and give them skills. So that way, you don’t have to stay there forever, but you can leave and be equipped with some skills, whether it be farming or anything like that, that you don’t know and hopefully bring people out there like plumbers and everything. Get people skilled up as far as like trades, skill trades and things like that. That’s what my plan is. And just do that in a few different spots, not one spot, just a few different spots, and try to create a few sustainable communities. That’s my dream for sure.

Kimala Luna: Wow. That’s beautiful.

Daniel White: Thank you.

Kimala Luna: When did you start thinking about that dream?

Daniel White: I’ve been wanting to do that for quite a while. My father, rest in peace, he had a huge community garden over there in Pisgah View. We started that, over in the baseball field. And I always had some conversations with him about stuff like that, starting a home state, just a place where all the family could go just in case somebody loses a job or fall on hard times, “Okay. Well, come on up here to the property. You got a place up here. It might not be this luxury that you are accustomed to and you’re going to have to put in some work to stay here and all that, but it’s free.” You see what I’m saying? So I just want to be able to provide that for people that I love and people that I don’t know that need help.

Elizabeth Garland: That is amazing. Thank you. I mean, just because what you’re doing is creating seeds that will continue to flourish and grow and become something more. So it’s very selfless part of your dream and legacy.

Daniel White: Definitely. Thank you.

Elizabeth Garland: It’s hard to… Since I can’t see Kimala, I’ll jump in.

Kimala Luna: Jump on in!

Elizabeth Garland: Okay. Do you have a particular story that you would like to share with us and the listeners in terms of finding yourself and being out in nature and the woods and appreciating the surrounding environment?

Daniel White: Oh man, I guess I would say on just every end of every trip, just when you start getting to that end, how you start, you start moving a little bit slower. You’re like, “Man, I got a couple of days left.” You want to walk slower. You want to slow it down because you’re really trying to just soak up every single moment at that point. And I’ve been getting that on all these trips, man. I’m like, “Man, I don’t want to go home.” And I think that’s why I’m steady chasing the adventure because I don’t want to go home. I want to stay on the next one.

Daniel White: I don’t know. You’re constantly learning, finding things out about yourself, figuring yourself out because you got a lot of time and they might come while you’re eating oatmeal in the morning. It might come at you at one of those good views. It might come when you had two or three days where for all day rain, sick and ready to get off the trail and go home. So they just come. I mean, it’s just like day after day, you got just epiphanies. You’re in the moment. It’s a different… It’s hard to explain. It’s really hard to explain unless you kind of experience it.

Kimala Luna: I want to go back to, you mentioned in Ireland that you were hanging out with a group and they were racist. And I wondered if it had come up in the Appalachian Trail, and I think you have mentioned before that it has. I just want to maybe touch on the times when racism shows up on the trail and what you wished would have happened instead.

Daniel White: It’s just the microaggressions. You’re going to get them just like you get out in society, just those. It’s this like the off-putting little questions, “Why don’t Black people hike?” I became basically the unofficial ambassador for Black people even though I was just trying to hike. I’m like, “Man, I’m just trying to eat oodles of noodles at night and you are asking me all these things about Black people. I’m not the ambassador. I’m not your teacher.” So you’re going to have that.

Daniel White: You’re going to have sometimes you pull up to a hostel, like this hostel in Virginia, Four Pines, and the girl I was hiking with didn’t tell me this until days later. It was me and it was another Black guy who happened to be there at the same time. So the owner made a comment like, “Oh, I got two of them today.” It’s like-

Kimala Luna: Oh, gosh.

Daniel White:… “Oh, we had Black people,” type of thing because it’s so rare you see us out here, but it’s like okay…whatever, that. I had to pack of racists run up on me about a mile away from the Mason-Dixon line ironically. So they come surround the pavilion that me and my friend we’re going to camp at night, riding bikes with big headlights on and go up the street. They’re howling like wolves, come back down with two big dogs, huge dogs and surrounding us again. So I’m telling her like, “Look, let’s pack up.” So that type of thing. Going into just stay in a hostel and you got a big sign and say, “Build that wall.” I don’t think I want to stay at that hostel. I couldn’t imagine how that would make a Hispanic person feel pulling up and seeing that. I don’t care if they’re legal or illegal.

Daniel White: Just that type of culture, that broke culture, that misogynistic culture, it’s all there. It’s all out there. I mean, people try to [paint] the trail as just this socially acceptable place, “Oh, there’s no trouble on the trail.” I mean, yeah, that sounds good and everything. For certain people, I’m pretty sure that’s true, but it’s not true for everybody. So definitely, you will be hearing from me. As long as I got a voice, you’ll be hearing from me about it until something changes for sure.

Elizabeth Garland: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Well, I have to say for me and what you represent and sometimes it’s fortunate and unfortunate that this responsibility or how it comes on to someone’s shoulders, but whenever I see you, I see, “Oh, well, I can get out there and I can hike.” And I know for so many young individuals who are Black see you and see that you represent, “Well, I can go out there and I can do this.” I think what we lack is the access or the mentality of like, “I can just get out there and do it.” And so since you did that, representation really matters. Have you seen more hikers of color and not just Black hikers, just hikers of colors?

Daniel White: For sure. People hit me up a lot. I got to take a couple of my friends out. I got to take my mom out for a hike for probably the first time last year, I think. So yeah, a lot of people. Yeah, they hit me up a lot, “Hey, man, what should I do? I want to take my kid out. I want to do this. What should I buy? Should I go about it?” So I know it’s working. I could see the change. I can see the shift happening. I can see people just, even in the way they talk to me, they treat me a lot different now, so I know there’s a shift happening. So definitely, I just want to keep that going. I had plans before COVID-19 to get some kids out. I’ve been getting donations. So I was almost ready to get some kids out there. We had it somewhere this month actually, but with everything going on, I had to postpone it. But definitely next year, we will get them out there for sure.

Elizabeth Garland: Nice.

Kimala Luna: How was your hike with your mom? How was her first hike?

Daniel White: Oh, it was amazing, man. It was pretty cool. We went up to Craggy Gardens and we had it like a group hike. So her and my aunt came actually. So they all hike with me and took a few pictures, had a nice little time, little picnic and stuff at the top. So it was nice. Yeah.

Elizabeth Garland: Oh.

Daniel White: Actually, she said she would go camping with me. So I had talked to her, and she’s like, “Yeah, let’s go camping. I want to do something by a lake though. I want to do some fishing.” So I’m like, “Okay, I’ll be on the lookout for something soon.”

Elizabeth Garland: Okay. Well, we’re going to have to hold her to it as well. I’m trying to think, did your hiking and camping skills just come naturally, specifically camping, so like finding food? Yes. Did that come natural to you?

Daniel White: Well, no. I mean, I just realized I had a tent for a year and a half and then I had to get one of my friends to actually show me how to properly set it up. I have been setting it up wrong for a year and a half. So I’m just be winging it, man. I’m winging the hell out of life. I bought all the wrong gear. Though some of it [inaudible 00:24:26], you leave. Some of them are in some boxes somewhere. So it’s definitely a learning curve. I’m constantly learning about myself, about the trail, about gear, about how to hike better. It’s a 24/7 experience, 24/7. You got to stay sharp out there for sure. Even if you in the city, even the Spain or Camino, it’s walking through a bunch of coastal towns, but you still got to be on lookout and watch out and make sure you’re alert.

Kimala Luna: What are some words of encouragement you would say to maybe like somebody who is younger, who is interested in getting on the trail, but feels scared to get started?

Daniel White: Oh man, I mean, get out and do it. You got a better chance of walking outside your house and getting hit by a car than eat by bear. I mean, it’s just the numbers of it. And I got four or 5,000 miles on me, I haven’t been eaten yet. If you feel safe, just take your precautious, look up what you should do when you encounter wild animals and just kind of addressing that. But you cannot be scared to live. If you’re living in fear, then you’re already dead, in my eyes anyway. So I don’t know. That’s hard for me to put myself in that because I don’t think like that. It’s hard to think like that. That’s a dangerous way to think. Because once you start thinking like that, you trap yourself off and you limit your whole life. Go for it, that’s what I would say.

Elizabeth Garland: What’s the wildest animal you’ve encountered on the trail.

Daniel White: Oh, it had to be probably moose, porcupine, hedgehog, rattlesnake, oh man, bear, whatever you can think of. If we got it on the East Coast, I saw it. If we got it, whatever they had in Spain, I saw it. The only thing I didn’t see you in Spain, I think was a couple of the little rare animals, like wolves and stuff they got. But yeah, if you look it up, if it’s on the East Coast, I saw it on the Appalachian, for sure, numerous times.

Kimala Luna: What was the bear encounter like?

Daniel White: Oh, which one? I had 30 of them, at least.

Kimala Luna: Oh, wow.

Daniel White: I remember one time, one of the first ones, they were telling me, “Oh, you got to stand up and make yourself look big and scream and get loud and all this.” So I did that and the bear has gotten like stood up on me and just kind of looked at me. So I’m like, “Ah, this ain’t it.” Then it kind of walked off and I got around the corner. I took off running. When I got on my friends, when I got in the camp at night, I said, “Y’all told me to do this and it didn’t work. I’m not listening to you no more like. No.” [inaudible 00:27:04]. It was that, or you might run across a cub. And that’s what was probably what scared me the most, running across a cub. When I would do that, I just kind of back up, look around because I know the mother is not too far away and that’s when you’re going to really have some trouble with some type of bears or anything like that. So yeah, plenty bear encounters.

Elizabeth Garland:  Wow.

Kimala Luna: Wow.

Daniel White: Oh yeah, I had one walk up on my tent one night. Don’t do this at home. I was eating like a burrito and I like Doritos stuff in it. And I was sitting in my tent at night eating, then I heard one walking all the way down through the woods. I can hear it like crashing everything, just coming on down to the woods right up to my tent, and I’m still in there, crunching away, and then I just thought like screaming. Everybody woke up and he walked on up. But yeah, don’t eat in your tent. Yeah, don’t be like me.

Elizabeth Garland: With the Doritos. With the Doritos.

Kimala Luna: Yeah.

Elizabeth Garland: Where have you not gone yet but you want to go?

Daniel White: Definitely New Zealand. I want to go to New Zealand. They got the Te Araroa Trail. It’s like 2,200 mile, somewhere around there, 2000 miles, and probably Patagonia down in South America. I would love to hike that trail. That’s like an 1,800 mile trail they got. Japan. I don’t know. I want to go everywhere, and definitely want to go to Africa at some point. I want to walk across Africa. I followed a guy named Mario Rigby that walked across Africa. He is dope. So I think that’s pretty cool. He walked from South Africa up to, I want to say, Egypt.

Daniel White: Yeah, I’m going to walk to where as long as these legs keep working, man, I’m walking everywhere. I’m walking around Vancouver and Portland right now. I’ve just been walking everywhere. It’s cool. It’s a good way to get out and actually get in touch with the city and the people that way, more so than a car. You’re just riding high speed and you’re missing a lot. I don’t know. I just be trying to get peace out there. I try to disconnect when I’m on trail, right? Even right now, when I’m at now, I’m just trying to disconnect. I’ve been knew this was stated over. People just now realizing how bad racism really was, and I’m like, “Man, I’ve been saying this for years and years. No, that’s why I’m taking a month vacation. Let me take a break. Good, y’all fight the fight that I’ve been fighting for years now. I’ll be back, but I need a break.”

Elizabeth Garland: Right.

Daniel White: Okay.

Elizabeth Garland: I wanted to ask about music. And is there a song that really inspires you or just one particular song that you listen to a lot while you’re out hiking?

Daniel White:Yeah, definitely. Natty Dreadlock, Bob Marley, for sure. That’s one that always gets me. Natty Dreadlock, One Thousand Miles Away from Home. Yeah, that’s one that always that pick my spirit up. Either that or my rap go-to is 5th Ward Weebie, it’s called Let Me Find Out. It’s ratchet. It’s really ratchet. It’s good, always good. I love it. It pick me right on up. Yeah.

Elizabeth Garland: That’s amazing. I love it.

Kimala Luna: That’s awesome. And then I just had a question about just the magic of the woods. When do you feel that the woods are the most magical, what about them and what is that feeling like for you?

Daniel White:Oh, I would say the early morning or the evening when it’s just silent. I like that. I like that silence where you can just walk through. That’s magical to me. That silence right before it gets dark, I like that. That’s cool. Then you might run across, like in the Appalachian, I ran across coming through at dusk, man, it’s a huge population of lightning bugs. So that was cool to see, so like the forest is glowing. So you run into stuff like that, I mean, it’s cool. Or you might run into little fairies and stuff where people would put, it was like a big porcelain Dalmatian, fake porcelain Dalmatian up on the mountain. I’m like, “Who carried that everything in there?” It’s like that. Especially on the Appalachian Trail, you got that community, stuff like that. So it’s always a little bit of little folklore and little magic and stuff going on with it.

Elizabeth Garland: That is amazing. Well, we sincerely thank you for what you continue to do.

Daniel White: No problem. No problem.

Elizabeth Garland: Yeah. So we are excited to continue to watch your journey.

Kimala Luna: Yes.

Elizabeth Garland: Where can we find you? Where can people find more information about The Blackalachian?

Daniel White: Everything is at The Blackalachian Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. I pretty much film most of all my hikes. I still got a little bit of footage left to put up from a few of the trips. But yeah, everything at The Blackalachian or Blackalachian, depending on where you sit at on the Mason-Dixon line, depending on how your accent rolls off, for sure.

Kimala Luna: Awesome. Well, thank you so much for coming on the show with us today.

Daniel White: No, thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate this for sure. I don’t know. I was thinking it was July 23rd. I was all lost. I was off. I just got to look on my calendar today, I was like, “Oh, that’s tonight. Okay. Let’s do it.” Yeah.

Elizabeth Garland: Thank you.

Daniel White: No problem. No problem.